私たちのジャージは意味がありません。

秘密を教えましょう。私たちの ジャージ 意味不明。

2017年に束を作ったので、他のブランドに乗る必要はありませんでした。みんな好きだったので買いました。いつもとんでもなく湿度が高く暑いシンガポールに乗っているため、軽量です。彼らはこの高温多湿の島で腐食しない唯一のものであるため、誰もが好むとは言えない脂肪樹脂ジッパーを使用しています。たまたまポケットが大きいので、ボトルや消耗品を詰めることができました。生地がゆるくなくて体にくっついてほしいので、サイジングは奇妙に小さいです(購入したい場合は、サイジングチャートに細心の注意を払うか、サイジングヘルプデスクを使用してください)。

これらのジャージは意味がありません。作ったり売ったりしてはいけません。彼らはしばしばRedWhiteの主要製品-私たちの気をそらします 長距離ビブショーツ。

この製品ラインに夢中にならないようにするのは、絶え間ない努力です。私は先週5時間を費やして、新しい色をデザインし、より多くの人々がそれらを購入できるようにジャージをより良くする方法を考えました。メリノジャージのアイデアも簡単に楽しみました。クラブフィットのジャージを欲しがっているお客様からのメールを読みました。スキンスーツのタイトなジャージを見ました。 

ジャージは多頭のモンスターです。良いジャージが実際に何であるかについての単一の考えはありません。どの色やデザインが魅力的であるかについての良いガイドはありません。 RedWhiteのジャージラインに多くの時間とエネルギーを費やしています。たくさんの愛情が注がれていますが、クールエイドを飲まないで、残忍な正直さを備えたジャージの製品ラインを見るのは私にとって価値があると思います。これは私とビジネスにとって深刻な負担であり、長距離ビブショーツを作るビジネスから私たちをそらします。範囲を拡大することを考えるのではなく、私が持っているいくつかの色のディープストックにもっと焦点を合わせ、それらのより多くを販売することに焦点を合わせ、ビブショーツに焦点を合わせる必要があります。

それで、私は私のジャージ製造業者に今日より厳しい生産注文を送って、ジャージについてあまり考え過ぎることをやめました。 

それらはRedWhiteの製品ラインの一部として存在し続けます。彼らにどれだけの愛が注がれたかを考えると、私には彼らを殺す心がありません。

この投稿について何か意見はありますか?ジャージが好きですか?それらが好きではないのですか?以下にコメントをドロップしてください。

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Henipeldappesia %B%d、%Y

@ Devery Andrews

Thanks! Have you left a review for them yet? I believe you’d have received an automated reminder 30 days after making a purchase.

Yuva | Co-Founder of RedWhite Apparel %B%d、%Y

@ Nick Phelps

Thanks so much for this feedback. I’ll continue making them and even introduce new colours in 2020 based on the feedback to this post. It’s been pretty intense and I wasn’t expecting so many comments.

Yuva | Co-Founder of RedWhite Apparel %B%d、%Y

@ Stephen

New batch of The BIB Navy will come in February 2020. They’ll be a constant fixture on our product line. Regarding white jerseys, I did make some in 2017, but they didn’t sell well at all. Feedback at that time was simple – white jerseys are really hard to keep clean.

Love to know your thoughts about this. You seem to be one of the rare people who want a white jersey.

Yuva | Co-Founder of RedWhite Apparel %B%d、%Y

@ Hans

It really puts a smile on my face to know you ride in nothing else. It’s really a pity the gloves didn’t work well for you. I am in the process of redesigning them and our pad supplier has actually gotten into the glove game. It could take a while to design and re-launch them though. Gloves are incredibly tricky. I personally love overbuilt thick gloves, but others hate them and prefer really minimal ones.

Yuva | Co-Founder of RedWhite Apparel %B%d、%Y

@ Will

The intense response to this blog post will definitely keep the jerseys alive. Also, if I stopped making them, what else would I wear in future?

Yuva | Co-Founder of RedWhite Apparel %B%d、%Y

@ Etienne

Same here to be honest. Before I made jerseys, I rode almost exclusively in club jerseys. A lot of people do and it’s a very important part of cycling culture. You just don’t roll up to a team ride NOT in a team jersey.

Yuva | Co-Founder of RedWhite Apparel %B%d、%Y

@ Brett

You’re spot on about the sizing. It’s cut really close. The good news is that 3XL and 4XL sizes are officially in production. We’ve also simplified the design and dropped the gaudy “IN FOR THE LONG RIDE” on the rear pocket.

Yuva | Co-Founder of RedWhite Apparel %B%d、%Y

@ Jake Preston

Some brands do command a premium and I personally have nothing against that. I think brands like Assos and Q36.5 push design boundaries and innovation doesn’t come cheap, particularly when you consider the relatively small scale of cycling vs other major sports like running. In RedWhite’s case I am constantly looking at new things in the market and make prototypes to test new fabrics and pads. Haven’t quite found something that’s a leap forward to justify rolling out a new upgrade just yet. There are some really interesting concepts and ideas from my suppliers which may make their way into RedWhite’s bibshort lineup in the future.

Yuva | Co-Founder of RedWhite Apparel %B%d、%Y

@adamct

You’re absolutely right about our need to be laser focused. The jersey product line was particularly challenging and continues to be as customers from different parts of the world have different ideas of what a great all round jersey should be. The current concept is very tropical and best suited for hot and humid long rides. The high-vis colour you’re asking has come up a few times on this long thread! Something for me to think about for 2020.

Yuva | Co-Founder of RedWhite Apparel %B%d、%Y

Love the jerseys (I own two). The fit is perfect for me and I like the materials used. No complaints.

Devery Andrews %B%d、%Y

I just want to note that your jerseys are my favorite ones out there! I have two and will buy more when I need to replace others. The fit is great, the price is right, the colors are awesome, the lack of graphics is welcome, and the big pockets and durable zipper are ideal. I hope you keep making them! The best fit and especially value out there! I am in the USA in PA in case it is of interest.

Nick Phelps %B%d、%Y

Jerseys are a great fit and value for money. The socks also feel really good with the right amount of elastic. I hope that you keep making a run of the Navy Blue Knicks will be the next purchase. Solid colours are great. If you compete and you aren’t part of a club or team then you can’t go wrong with a solid colour. I would like to see a few more colours to be available, like a standard white, or a lighter fluro blue with the matching socks to match. Hopefully as you keep growing you will introduce.

Stephen %B%d、%Y

firstly I never buy any other kind of bib shorts, secondly I really like the colour range of the jerseys. They are a supersmall fit though as others have said. I’m also a fan of the socks. The only product that didn’t work for me was the gloves. The jerseys are for warm weather and work well with a mesh singlet. So keep making them.

Hans %B%d、%Y

Don’t stop making the jerseys! It’s nice to have matching jersey and bib. I have the white and pink (Sahara?) and love them. I used the sizing helpdesk for my first order and they fit perfectly.
I live in the UK so they are a summer jersey, but I love them! Great quality, great fit.

Will %B%d、%Y

Honestly, I’ve never given the jerseys a try for two reasons:
1) I always have so many club/event jerseys that I don’t need more!
2) “In for the long ride” is such a huge branding section, it turns me off

Good luck with the decisions

Etienne %B%d、%Y

I’ve been riding and racing for about 40 years and I estimate that I’ve had over 100 jerseys since I started riding seriously. Is the R & W jersey the best I’ve ever had? No, it’s not, but it’s certainly in the top 10 and a bargain at the price. The colors and style don’t scream, the zipper actually works, and the pockets are well placed and correctly sized. Obviously, it’s a high summer jersey, not suitable for shoulder months. On the negative side, the sizing is a tad small compared to other, more standard brands, but that’s easily corrected when ordering. Also, the slogan “in for the long ride” on the back pocket should be deleted. But all minor issues. A good jersey that works and at a fair price, designed by people who actually ride.

Brett %B%d、%Y

Yuva mate,
The bibs are by far the best out there. Doubly so given the ludicrous prices other “premium” brands charge based on…??? Nothing I can understand frankly. So sure, that is where your focus should be. The bibs. But, on the other hand, they are already so good…the jerseys, as hard as they are, deserve some attention. Personally I love them. They aren’t too busy, match easily and in South Korea, like Singapore our summers are crazy humid. The body fitting with mesh panels is a Godsend in comfort. OK it might not be perfect now (0°C ~5°C) but under a softshell bike jacket it breathes and I’m not freezing from sweat. Please keep them going. Sahara is great, Navy, Military Green…not a pink or white fan, because I get dirty and those colours get grubby fast. But you cats at RedWhite have done a stellar job of the jerseys. Be proud.

Jake Preston %B%d、%Y

Yuva,

I’m a bit surprised by this post, since it seemed to me like you were doing exactly the right thing. As a small-ish company, you can’t be all things to all people, and I think it would be foolish to try. You should do exactly the same thing with your jerseys as you do with your bibs: be laser-focused on a single concept, communicate clearly to your customers what your jersey is (and isn’t), and then let customers decide what they want. Some will want your jersey concept. Others will want something different. Some customers who do not want your bibs WILL want your jerseys. I think you’ve done a good job with this post of explaining your jersey:

- Thin, wicking material suitable for warm conditions
- Large pockets (but not zippered)
- Chunky, easy to use, corrosion-proof resin zipper
- Tight / “race fit” construction
— Simple, solid color design

Sounds like a pretty good, focused product to me. I wouldn’t change anything, with one exception (😜): high-viz color options are important to a lot of people. Make sure you have one color that is just obnoxiously bright. The most nuclear yellow, orange or pink you can find. (Personally, I vote for pink, since there are tons of yellow and orange options. Plus, I love pink.)

Don’t stop offering the jerseys. I think it is important to have a relatively complete product line, but I also don’t think you should spend too much time thinking about them. You have a good design. Customers will decide what is right for them.

All the best,
Adam

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@Dave

Excellent points about UV protection and being breathable. The only way to do this well is to ditch the mesh fabric entirely and go with a lightweight lycra fabric for the back. It won’t be as cooling though. Our jerseys have a SPF 15 rating, which at first glance isn’t high. But underneath the jersey, your back is protected by the fabric from our bibshorts strap which has a massive SPF 50 rating. I also ride with a baselayer which has another SPF 20 rating. This wonderful layered system keeps me well protected on all rides. I can definitely do it 1 fabric and it is something to think about for 2020.

Yuva | Co-founder of RedWhite Apparel %B%d、%Y

@PStuart

I do actually have a hi-vis yellow design on file. Might release it next year ;)

Yuva | Co-Founder of RedWhite Apparel %B%d、%Y

@Grant Slater

Really really happy to know the bibshorts worked for you! Would you consider telling me more about your Rainmaker Rollercoaster ride? I’d love to publish it on our Bibshorts Success Stories blog.

About the white jersey, I did actually make one, but it sold so poorly I discontinued it. Feedback from people was simple : White jerseys are difficult to keep clean.

Yuva | Co-Founder of RedWhite Apparel %B%d、%Y

@Tony

Thanks! I agree with you about stylish simplicity not being redundant. It’s actually far easier to make those and keep because someone will always want a solid colour jersey. I’m ill equipped to do graphic design on the same level as the Aussie brands and Rapha (just not enough imagination or design flair).

Yuva | Co-Founder of RedWhite Apparel %B%d、%Y

@Marc Deshaies

You’re correct about the jerseys not really fitting the long distance niche. They don’t because long distance riding in Singapore and South East Asia is very different from many parts of the world. For me, a lightweight tailored jersey with massive pockets is all I need to ride 300km. What I can do is to ask what customers in other parts of the world want and design for that.

This blog post is really useful in getting the conversation going on that front.

Yuva | Co-Founder of RedWhite Apparel %B%d、%Y

Thanks for the information, Yuva

I recently ordered a black bib as well as your new blue bib. I have not yet ridden them – looking forward to it

Living in South Australia it does become very hot, generally December through March so a Jersey that is breathable and UV protecting is a must

I looked at the jerseys in the bulk package and considered but did not for several reasons:
a) Securing correct size
b) Bright stand out colours – not gawky – are what I would like to ensure being seen, the lilac appealed a bright high viz colour would be good too
c) Rear pockets with a zip for securuty
d) Touching and feeling the material… will it be wicking, will it be cooling, will it be warm enough in Autumn and Spring?

I use A’qto bibs and they have a nice rear pocket feature which may be worth considering too – fyi. They, too, are good for distance riding and are well made so will be interesting to compare against RWA

All the best!

Dave %B%d、%Y

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