The BIB Cargo : Prototype #1

The BIB Cargo is a bibshort with 2 tough-mesh pockets on each leg for storing essentials on long rides. The essentials you would stuff into these pockets would typically be nutrition that you'd want quick access to. I've developed a prototype that i'd like to show you below :

Cargo Bibshort prototype

The base of The BIB Cargo is the incredibly popular The BIB Bibshort. The large continuous panels on the thighs of this short were absolutely perfect for stitching a big mesh pocket on. 

Cargo Bibshort prototype

Prototype #1 uses a tough-mesh fabric. As the name suggests, it's a heavy, tough and stretchy mesh fabric. The technical specification sheet suggests that it should be able to withstand a lot of abuse. So far, it's pretty capable of holding a fair amount of stuff without losing shape. Stuffing a peanut butter jar into the pocket was pushing my luck a bit, but a book was relatively easy. Keys shouldn't be an issue as well as the mesh fabric is tough and doesn't snag easily.

Cargo Bibshort prototype

This is still a relatively early prototype. That being said, I am surprised how well made and finished Prototype #1 is. The mesh fabric turned out really well. The pockets are 7 inches tall, which should keep stuff from falling out when you pedal.

This bibshort will be taken on several century rides to nail the final dimensions and features. If all goes well, expect to see them available for purchase in late July 2020. Expect them to cost a touch more than The BIB.

As always, I do appreciate feedback on this project. Do comment on the pockets. Also, please let me know if you need these mesh pockets on the rear panel as well. I didn't include them in this prototype as they increase cost and I just didn't see a need for pockets on my back when I have already have a jersey with pockets on.

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30 comments

I have two sets of your bibs. They are excellent. I Just received another brand that have two thigh pockets and a rear pocket. Have put 200 miles on them and have played around with using pockets. The pockets are useful for sure esp with extra stuff needed on gravel rides around here in Texas that are self supported. I use the back pocket for wallet that I always carry. Even messed around with soft 250 cc and 500 cc Solomon soft wetter bladders on both sides. Still learning. Not sure how they will be in an intense gravel race. I have crashed in road races over the years and the lateral thigh can take a real beating sliding on the road. Not sure if I would want anything solid in the pockets. Hey keep up the new ideas. Why can we not have simple jerseys like I raced with with front and rear pockets in the 60’s and 70’s. So easy to get stuff out of – they no longer exist. Some companies make a recumbent Jersey with front pockets and no rear. !! Just some thoughts. Be safe! Alan

Alan March 31, 2020

These have to happen! I haven’t even received my first pair of bibshorts from you guys, but I know they will be phenomenal! I’ve wanted cargo bibshorts for awhile. I just did the White Rim in Canyonlands, Utah and they would have been perfect. No back pockets needed. It looks like the side pockets are perfect size. Ooooo boy this is exciting! Navy ones? I hope by me purchasing my first pair yesterday, I start my collection of amazing bibshorts. Thanks Yuva, you’ve been great so far (since I’ve bought my first pair yesterday)
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Sam March 31, 2020

Can not wait for these to be available, as an Ultra rider I use the ones by a competitor in the UK but I hate the bid straps and I the chamois in them! These will be my go to for Ultra and the Indian Pacific Wheel Race next year after CoViD stopped this year’s ride.

Matt Donaldson March 30, 2020

I hope this cargo shorts will have a women’s version! It’s frustrating to see other bike apparel brands make cargo bibs for men but not women!

Jing Wen March 20, 2020

Great idea for long rides!

I have stuffed gels into the leg of my normal bibs for ease of access and to save room in my jersey pockets for bulkier items like energy bars and extra bottles. The pockets would make it a lot easier to store the gels. I would not over stuff the bib pockets as I think it would be uncomfortable over a certain point.

If a pocket was added to the back of the bibs, I would probably put my keys and a credit card back there, things I don’t need during a ride but handy when stopped.

Jim Palistrant March 19, 2020

Only appeal to me of cargo bibs is for casual rides with a T-shirt instead of bike jersey. Think vacation time riding with kids etc. so – for me – I’d be more interested in cargo pockets in a recreational quality bib/short.

David G March 19, 2020

What a fantastic idea, I just completed a 230km ride and having side pockets on my RedWhites would have been so much easier than dealing with jersey pockets, especially with wet gloves.

Suggestion – one side – have segmented pocket for gels, the other side a single pocket. Having the segment means a simple way to pull one item out at a time and not drop things whilst on the move.

No need for a back pocket.

Great job, wish this had been available when I ordered my last set of RedWhites as I would have grabbed them instead.

Simon McCormack March 19, 2020

Awesome! At this moment I can’t see a need for a rear pocket, but that doesn’t mean it’s not useful!
If the cost is say 10% more to add it, my opinion would be to skip it, but if it’s less than that, worth considering for sure…

ET March 18, 2020

Add the rear pocket ! I often prefer my pedal ed odyssey bibs over my stealth’s because of the pockets , especially the rear. The stealth bib chamois in the pedal ed odyssey would be the best bibshort on the planet !

Glen Ford March 18, 2020

@DAVID BECKWITH : Yup! Food in particular. I can imagine stuffing a few bars in these. I’ll be curious to see how people actually end up using them.

@CHRIS HEREFORD : The pockets lie super flat since they stretch out with your thighs. No issues when empty. Again, these are early days and I need to ride test them and wash them to see how the pockets hold up. Am on wash cycle #2 and they look fine. Going by the feedback so far, I reckon adding more pockets on the rear strap will be a good way forward.

@HARRY LAOH : Thanks for the info about the Compresport shorts.

@HARUMASA : I get what you mean. One problem with moving the pockets up is that is interferes with the hip joint. It’s an area that creases a lot which would make the pocket uncomfortable. I will be looking into this for sure. So far, on my testing, stuff doesn’t pop out because the pockets are deep and also super elastic. Nothing got out on my 2 test rides so far. I had a couple of biscuits, hydration salt packet, a bunch of keys and 1 ATM card inside.

@KEITH B GOLDSTEIN : The band total bibshort length is tailored to include to extra length from the gripper. No issues with fit for most of my customers.

@BOYD NOLAN : Excellent points. If you do stuff something in there that shouldn’t be exposed to sweat, you’d usually wrap it in plastic, just how you’d put stuff into your rear jersey pocket. I’ve had no issues so far with pulling stuff out, so the height isn’t a concern. If anything, I might extend it a bit to allow you to stuff larger stuff inside. Accessibility is key as well, so the final depth of the pockets will be heavily influenced by this.

@EUGENE TUVILLA : You’d slip a hydration pack into a mesh pocket and run the hose to the front, underneath your jersey / t-shirt. The straps will have fasteners to ensure the hose runs tidily along the bib strap. It’s an idea for now though.

@MATT MARTENS : I could make the pocket waterproof or resistant, but this is very expensive and also difficult. Bibshorts stretch a lot, so your waterproofing layer has to stretch a lot as well. We’re talking about a 20% elastane content. Polartec has some of these fabrics, but they do cost a lot to use without the benefit. You can simply solve this by purchasing a reusable weather resistant pouch from a company like Bellroy. Or simply use a ziplock bag.

YUVA, Founder of RedWhite Apparel March 18, 2020

Seeing the comment about sweat would prevent using the pocket for certain items… what about making one of the pockets water resistant or waterproof? Especially for ID cards, cash, and such. I personally picture just gels and bars but a nice slim waterproof pocket might make more sense for these items then a jersey pocket. Loving the idea regardless of this water resistant waterproof idea.

Matt Martens March 18, 2020

Love the side pockets on the sample! If the pockets can lie flat and hold that much capacity,I am already sold. The idea of rear pockets would work if they are deep and unobtrusive. It would be useful if higher on the back and if it is secure that stuff doesn’t roll out.
About the idea of a hydration bladder on the back, how would you access it though?

Eugene Tuvilla March 18, 2020

I’ve recently obtained my first RW bibs and so far they are excellent. I’m a recreational rider, and typically do a few dozen century type rides as part of my normal weekend riding routine through the season. I’m very interested in the cargo concept and would be likely to try some when they are available. Several people have mentioned the possibility of using for things like wallet, cell phone, etc, but that would seem to be problematic because of sweat. With the target of these bibs being for long rides, I can’t imagine that I would want the bulk of those on my thigh for hours on end…there is bound to be some pressure effect of anything with substantial size, especially with edges like keys. As a space for convenient access to food and energy it sounds like an excellent idea. Just looking at the pictures, I might suggest that the front edge of the pocket be a little lower to make it easier to get into without having to either twist your body or force your leg straight down. When I grab a gel or something if I have to pull it straight back all the way out to free it, the odds are increased I might drop it or pull something else out along with it accidentally. Thanks for the preview info!

Boyd Nolan March 18, 2020

The only thing I am concerned about is the elastic band on the short’s leg. It is wide and adds length to the short. I am not particularly tall. I find shorts with the band at the bottom to be too long.

KEITH B GOLDSTEIN March 18, 2020

My Tri Jerseys have limited storage so this interests me. Look forward to the reviews!

Michael Flitcraft March 18, 2020

Will love to try the cargo bibs. Have been doing malaysia and Audax ride and this will be the perfect bibs.

Tan Poh Huat March 18, 2020

I don’t think a big size is necessary because it is a thigh pocket that always moves. The contents of the pockets attached to the side move with the movement of the legs, and the contents are broken when falling, so it would be better to put a pocket on the upper side of the thigh. I want something that won’t pop out

Harumasa March 18, 2020

As a fan of RW bibshort, i certainly will consider to have this bib cargo. I think a small pocket in the front that can fit ID card or credit card or some cash will defenitely helpfull. Compresport short has done it.

Harry Laoh March 18, 2020

As a fan of RW bibshort, i certainly will consider to have this bib cargo. I think a small pocket in the front that can fit ID card or credit card or some cash will defenitely helpfull. Compresport short has done it.

Harry Laoh March 18, 2020

Cellphone and gels for the big rides. Always have trouble getting stuff out of rear jersey pockets whilst riding so l would love this idea.

john Clements March 18, 2020

Love it! Can’t wait

@taiwanroadrider March 18, 2020

When I first saw this on Rapha bibs, I wondered why it had never been done. Yes, 3 pockets on the back of a jersey is a good bit of storage, but sometimes the wallet or the phone or the ID card gets buried under larger items, like jackets or arm warmers. Then I have to pull each item from the jersey pocket, trying not to drop anything, while digging for what I needed. As long as the pocket materials hold their elasticity and don’t bellow out when empty, these will be great!

A few companies made mtb shorts with high rear pockets a few years ago. The idea was for the non-jersey riders who needed some storage capability. Not a terrible idea in a road bib, even with the side pockets. Given the the lack of bulk or effect on fit, a high rear pocket could provide a more secure location for less accessed items, of a flat nature, phone wallet, etc.

I’m sure I’ll get a pair of your pocket shorts in the future, I like it!

Chris

Chris Hereford March 18, 2020

Have sniffed around other similar offerings – but yet to commit. Definitely see value when you need to wear a camelbak and thus not have easy access to jersey pockets. Also appeals to me in that I’m not really a fan of the ‘bento boxes’ up on the top tube, so carrying food in the knicks is a good solution. Big fan of The Bib, so if I were to go down this path – this would be the pick.

DAVID BECKWITH March 18, 2020

@JASON BLACK IRELAND : Thoughts about an additional mesh on the rear strap for slipping a 3L camelback into? You can ditch your backpack as a result.

YUVA, FOUNDER OF REDWHITE APPAREL March 18, 2020

@CHRIS : It’s definitely a really new product category and mostly still for the early adopters. I think it can become more mainstream especially as the pockets lie flat when not used and very unobtrusive. I’m not sure how end users would end up using it, but I do plan on making it available for those who do need it. From early research, the gravel and mixed- terrain riders want it most.

@BEN WILD, @TSENG : I might actually just add the extra pockets on the rear so it becomes more versatile, especially when used with a regular t-shirt. MTB chaps mentioned this to me and I was considering introducing a rear pocket only model for them. Might combine both into a single product.

@JAKE PRESTON : I’m as old school as you. Never needed anything more than a jersey with big pockets. However, when you think about riding without a jersey, this becomes much more useful all of a sudden.

YUVA, Founder of RedWhite Apparel March 18, 2020

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